tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post1560573359223569417..comments2024-03-28T10:49:14.510-05:00Comments on Horizons: Another one bites the dustNancy LeTourneauhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12614317154146836694noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-75535374163133226132013-08-20T16:03:35.883-05:002013-08-20T16:03:35.883-05:00Thanks. That's lovely. But the name Sarah Pali...Thanks. That's lovely. But the name Sarah Palin would cause anyone pause in going too far with that generalization. LOLNancy LeTourneauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12614317154146836694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-11753697988122522622013-08-20T15:34:24.453-05:002013-08-20T15:34:24.453-05:00SP: My highest hope for Obama was that he'd be...SP: My highest hope for Obama was that he'd be the FDR for our time, reforming the system for a couple of generations; my deepest fear was that he'd be the Gorbachev, presiding over the collapse of the previous system [by which I didn't and don't mean the US fracturing like the SU into multiple smaller nations, more the formal establishment of plutocracy]. Neither seems to happening, exactly, but the mindblowing freak outs on both right and left do seem to be related to deep shifts in the nature of modern governance and the renegotiated social contract. I see the GG/JA position as riven with internal contradictions [liberty for me and thou art not me, except to you; oops], and their supporters all too often burying their awareness of this, refusing to acknowledge it, and bursting with surface anger to cover deep uncertainty, sometimes amounting to hidden guilt. And then there are the idiots. You're not losing your mind, but an awful lot of folks are. They will come around. Most of them, anyway.Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03830774223073462725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-33027487420416417742013-08-20T15:24:21.871-05:002013-08-20T15:24:21.871-05:00As a man, the reason I much prefer reading your bl...As a man, the reason I much prefer reading your blog on NSA matters rather than Drum, Booman, Cole, Benen, Sargent, et.al is best explained in this old Belafonte tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTDvCLAT8hgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-11602008075779211462013-08-20T15:23:01.629-05:002013-08-20T15:23:01.629-05:00Juan Cole is long past caring what the NSA actuall...Juan Cole is long past caring what the NSA actually does inside our borders. This is about defining the US government as illegitimate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-6618977882735620242013-08-20T14:44:19.693-05:002013-08-20T14:44:19.693-05:00Pete
Obama has consistently shown awareness of th...Pete<br /><br /><i>Obama has consistently shown awareness of that issue, though in my view he has not (till now) responded to it forcefully enough.</i><br /><br />This is exactly what makes me feel like I'm losing my mind lately. Just when Obama is starting to make some historical movement on this issue, we're hearing folks I once trusted talk about a STASI authoritarian state. WTF is up with that?! Nancy LeTourneauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12614317154146836694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-24915604278190785942013-08-20T14:31:54.831-05:002013-08-20T14:31:54.831-05:00I am tempted to reply that state secrets always we...I am tempted to reply that state secrets always were fit topics for the kind of people who went to cocktail parties! Put more seriously, there are significant and important related questions about elitism, and part of what makes them interesting is that the democratic impulse, which I share, runs smack up against the realities of justifiable security work. Finding that balance is always difficult. Obama has consistently shown awareness of that issue, though in my view he has not (till now) responded to it forcefully enough. Note that this is a position (O neither awful nor perfect) that seems to put me in opposition to almost everyone! Except, perhaps, our host here, for whose analysis I have a lot of respect.Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03830774223073462725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-65107484169070804592013-08-20T14:16:01.440-05:002013-08-20T14:16:01.440-05:00I keep wanting to ask whether during WW II the Ame...I keep wanting to ask whether during WW II the American public should have been privvy to plans for D-Day, the breaking of codes, etc. when we were fighting Nazi Germany and Japan? When did security plans become fit topics for cocktail parties? Churchlady320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-23540403119671958232013-08-20T13:54:20.492-05:002013-08-20T13:54:20.492-05:00Good point. But given that Cole's "beat&q...Good point. But given that Cole's "beat" is foreign policy, he should know better.Nancy LeTourneauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12614317154146836694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-41874218149088781562013-08-20T13:26:15.016-05:002013-08-20T13:26:15.016-05:00same issue as when krugman takes excursions into p...same issue as when krugman takes excursions into pure politics - outside of their field of expertise, they are just as bad as anyone else.sherifffruitflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14676077292357887614noreply@blogger.com