tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post3328167026203115777..comments2024-03-28T10:49:14.510-05:00Comments on Horizons: Democrats and Black VotersNancy LeTourneauhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12614317154146836694noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-85230348391046712892015-09-14T12:37:18.811-05:002015-09-14T12:37:18.811-05:00Long time, no see, Churchlady!
Yeah, I'm not ...Long time, no see, Churchlady!<br /><br />Yeah, I'm not optimistic about Bernie's chances of "getting it" either. But, then again, white privilege is a "helluva" drug. Especially when you have been taking it as long as Bernie has.<br /><br />King Beaurguard, it was keen of you to point out John McCain's attempt at trying to counter the Islamophobia of his supporters. And from the things I've heard Bernie says most recently, either his new PR person is highly incompetent or he just isn't listening to her. I would wager that it's the latter. nabsentia23noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-4049257654273527562015-09-14T09:44:11.365-05:002015-09-14T09:44:11.365-05:00There is, however, a conspicuous exception: Africa...<i>There is, however, a conspicuous exception: African-Americans, long accustomed to frustration in their pursuit of opportunity and respect, are amazingly upbeat, consistently astounding pollsters with their hopefulness.</i><br /><br />Yeah, only up until Jan 2017. Then a wave of depression will set in the likes of which hasn't been seen since the crack era.<br /><br />All candidates are formally and legally running to replace Barack Obama. That is unavoidable. Sanders is emphatically running to spiritually and philosophically replace Obama as well, and to purge his influence from Washington and the Democratic Party (that he's not even a member of!). As you might have noticed, people are picking up on this and are none too happy. There's no mediating that conflict.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-66012767698809739922015-09-13T22:01:47.466-05:002015-09-13T22:01:47.466-05:00To Bernie's credit, he has stepped up his game...To Bernie's credit, he has stepped up his game; he hired Symone Sanders and he added a page to his campaign site regarding Racial Justice. But I find it tremendously disappointing that it took him 74 years to learn that racism is a problem you can't solve through economics; I give him credit for improving because that's the proper thing to do, but deep down I wonder how well he could possibly understand it if it's taken him this long.<br /><br />And of course, his fans who are racist just below the surface; if they're not actively racist, they're at least disinclined to back causes that impact non-whites, which is the same as standing in the way of improvement. So, close enough to racist that I don't feel they merit the hair-splitting. I remember McCain's Islamophobic supporters in 2008 and how I felt McCain ought to try to rein them in, and I feel Bernie is in the same place: should do it, may not be good enough of a man to.King Beauregardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04043228078537079759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-88745772569335570752015-09-13T21:37:02.646-05:002015-09-13T21:37:02.646-05:00Nabsentia! It's wonderful to see you here, and...Nabsentia! It's wonderful to see you here, and thank you for a most clear analysis.<br /><br />I do not understand Bernie's inability to get this message unless I project a legacy of white, messianic leadership onto it all. I was a horrified newbie in the 60s who watched that tendency in college kids who seemed to believe they were born to lead the Black man from bondage. It was sickening then, and it's more disgusting now. I am under the impression that he thinks Black people are ignorant, need him to TELL them what to do. And that is utterly unacceptable from a would-be president on the Left side. I'm not sure that at age 74 he is capable of respecting Black people and their full and complete knowledge of their own lives. Until he gains some humility - also not likely at his age - he cannot make this connection and will continue to propagate the racist notion that Black people are stupid and therefore cannot connect to his wonderfulness. And so we go on, Left and Right, in heightened racism that does no one any good at all.Churchlady320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-55384099303184954402015-09-13T18:03:51.408-05:002015-09-13T18:03:51.408-05:00I keep hearing that Sanders is a strong powerful l...I keep hearing that Sanders is a strong powerful leader ... well I think he's hit his first crisis requiring his leadership, and that is his racist (or at least racially dismissive) supporters. As a leader it's his job to rein them in. If he can't or won't, how can he possibly be ready to lead the country?King Beauregardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04043228078537079759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-6398392407752641402015-09-13T14:12:52.047-05:002015-09-13T14:12:52.047-05:00Another wonderful article.
What many left-wing wh...Another wonderful article.<br /><br />What many left-wing whites (including Saunders) fail to realize when they only talk about economic inequality that is racism, in fact, contributes to it. Racism causes those who are its receiving end to be worse off economically due to lack of access to jobs, education, financing, and other things. <br /><br />It also hurts those in the privileged group because it makes it easier for them to vote against their best economic interests. This was the ultimate goal of the Southern strategy. Our country's social safety net is a little weaker now...for everybody. Some of us are worse off than others, but overall, we're all struggling. When Donald Trump, to the shock and horror of the GOP elites, says that he wants to protect Social Security and the predominately white and male GOP base roars in approval, the real purpose of the racist Southern strategy is revealed. <br /><br />In America, you can't discuss class without discussing race or vice versa. Racism denies economic opportunity. And yes, we do have people of color who are wealthy, but due to racism, they are still not as well off as whites in their same socioeconomic class. <br /><br />Until Bernie Saunders understands this, he's not going to make much headway with black voters (this one included). For us, economic inequality is a given and goes with the territory. nabsentia23noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7163441833245663827.post-72840931871825956912015-09-13T13:35:45.187-05:002015-09-13T13:35:45.187-05:00When I saw that Dr. West was joining Sanders on th...When I saw that Dr. West was joining Sanders on the campaign trail in S. Carolina, I almost wept. I'm supporting Clinton, but I like Sanders. I just wish they would both listen more. The republican candidates have this listening to the base skill down pat...unfortunately their base is bat-crap-insane.Tzuziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08909713988385190395noreply@blogger.com