Friday, January 30, 2015

Quick Take

Charles Pierce has written a great response to this statement from Jim Webb.
"I think they could do better with white, working people and I think this last election showed that," Webb said, referencing the 2014 midterms where Republicans took control of the Senate and added more power in the House. "The Democratic Party could do very well to return to its Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Andrew Jackson roots where the focus of the party was making sure that all people who lack a voice in the corridors of power could have one through the elected represented...You are not going to have a situation again where you have 96% of the African American vote turning out for one presidential candidate. ... We need to get back to the principles of the Democratic Party that we are going to give everyone who needs access to the corridors of power that access regardless of any of your antecedents. I think that is a fair concept."
Go read Pierce's whole article and raise your political IQ a few points.

That bolded sentence really caught my eye though. What I take from it is: "We've done that whole black president thing. Time to strategize around white candidates again." Perhaps I'm reading it wrong. But I think its an unspoken racist assumption that's out there.

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  1. Is Jim Webb playing the aggrieved white card? Guess he just sealed the idea that 96% of the Black vote going his way. This is so odd. Who are these Democrats who feel that way? I've never met one in real life. Doesn't in any way resemble the Democratic party I'm part of.

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  2. As a longtime supporter of union blue collar people, I know it is NOT necessary to make a racial divide to make clear your support of economic justice. Quite the OPPOSITE. Unions got this clear many moons ago. I am appalled by what Webb is saying not just for the 'we did the Black thing' issue but the embedded notion that working families don't have the same issues and cannot care about each other's pain that comes from different places. He's moving us 50 years backwards. That is NOT helpful, and he should be deeply ashamed.

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    1. "He's moving us 50 years backwards. That is NOT helpful, and he should be deeply ashamed."

      Thank you.

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  3. This racist shit from Webb & the "Obama has accomplished nothing" or "Obama is a failure" bogus storylines from Hillary's upcoming run, is why Democrats will lose in 2016 & beyond. NEVER take the Black Vote for granted! NEVER run away from the success of a Black President! Do so at your own defeat.

    There's a reason why voter apathy exists among minorities & this is just one of them.

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  4. "That bolded sentence really caught my eye though. What I take from it is: "We've done that whole black president thing. Time to strategize around white candidates again." Perhaps I'm reading it wrong. But I think its an unspoken racist assumption that's out there."


    Disregard the Black vote + Disregard the success of A Black President = Democratic party losses all across the board in 2016.

    And political pundits actually think Black voters are going to support Hillary in droves while she disrespects/disregards Obama's legacy?? As if the Right-Wing & the Media don't do that enough. GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!!!!

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  5. So...the ONLY reason that PBO won is because of the black vote? And, what...? PBO hasn't been about giving more access to all to the "corridors of power"? And, of course, black people are not "working people". As I recall it, Boo has been about talkin' this mess, too. Webb isn't going anywhere close to being nominated as he has about all the charisma of stale bread. Dude looks and sounds like he has perpetual, PAINfull, hemorrhoids. WHY, as all of us are asking, return to the past when, in fact, a winning coalition is already in place?? To me, the matter of a goodly number of alleged Democratic white males not voting for PBO is the exact same as why Republican white males wouldn't vote for him, either. PBO challenges the deeply believed but VERY false notion of white male superiority. PBO has and continues to explain the stupidity of voting against oneself. They don't want to hear that. Can Elizabeth Warren do a better job of beating this stupidity out of them as she's white? To me, perhaps some. But, she's a SHE. These same guys don't like that, either, as demonstrated in their ire against Mrs. Clinton when she was "just" the First Lady. I agree with Pierce. The evidence is there for all to see in terms of the approaches made and their current end result. These guys themselves have to connect the dots. That they will give credit that the black guy is a damn good leader and has been and continues to show the way remains to be seen. But, if these "smart" Dems want to see it alllll go away, they should listen to Webb. Republicans have proven that they really don't need ANY minority votes (HOPEfully, our Latin breth and sisteren will FInally figure this out) to win. Not the Dems, though.

    Tien Le, they're there. Just remember what Bill and Hillary did back in '08 re: South Carolina and Pennsylvania. Those were butt naked racist groveling appeals. That did NOT work. Having said that, the Democratic party does need to get its act together. As much as I like her, Ms. Wasserman-Schultz has been a disappointment as head of the DNC. If we're gonna win, eNOUGH of being ashamed of the aMAzing good that has been accomplished (because the black guy did it). This approach WORKS and benefits SO many more Americans. Dems can continue to win if they go FORWARD with courage as the coalition shall grow. But, if they don't....

    We shall see...

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    1. *"So...the ONLY reason that PBO won is because of the black vote?"*


      No. But if the Dems have a snowball's chance in Hell of winning in 2016, taking the Black vote for granted & running away from a successful President [whom just happens to be Black] is not a logical pathway to victory. The 2010 & 2014 midterms are examples of this.

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